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Three Questions to Ask A Believer in Theistic Evolution
We should have started with the same question we asked believers in evolution. If evolution is never happened (it didn't) then theistic evolution is also false (it is). Proving evolution is true is based on a logical fallacy called "equivication." Equivication means that the definition of a word is changed in the middle of the conversation, without people knowing the definition has changed. The word in this case is "evolution." Here's how it works:
The believer in evolution will say, "We see evolution happen in the laboratory. It's been observed happening. Evolution is a proven fact."
Defintion #1 (first and second sentences above) - evolution in the laboratory is defined as change, such as speciation (a new species being observed)
Defintion #2 - (third setence above) evolution is defined as all life having a common ancestor
These two definitions are very different. Proving that the information in DNA changes (speciation) does not prove new kinds of organisms evolve into existence nor that we have a common ancestor. A new kind of organism evolving, or even partially evolving into existence (a transition) has never been observed.
The noted noted British zoologist and physiologist Dr. Gerald Kerkut, distinguishes between the two major definitions of "evolution."
“There is a theory which states that many living animals can be observed over the course of time to undergo changes so that new species are formed. This can be called the ‘Special Theory of Evolution’ and can be demonstrated in certain cases by experiments. On the other hand there is the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form. This theory can be called the ‘General Theory of Evolution.’ and the evidence that supports it is not sufficiently strong to allow us to consider it as anything more than a working hypothesis.”
Proving the General Theory of Evolution (GTE) requires more than proving things chnage. You must prove that new information, resulting in new characteristics, is created. AND, you must prove that life arose from non-life. Both of these have been demonstrated to be impossible. (Watch some of our other videos here, here, and here.)
Let's Get To The Questions:
QUESTION #1 - How do you know what in the Bible is true, and what is myth or allegory? How do you determine when a plain, literal reading of scripture is not the correct way to read scripture?
To claim God used evolution as His "creative" means, requires denying a plain, straightford reading of Genesis chapter 1. It cannot be understood to mean what it says, even though the style of writing is that of a historical narrative. If we are to take Genesis 1 to be something other than historical narrative, at what point in scripture do we start taking the Bible to mean what it says? Are there other parts of scripture that does not mean what it says? If so, how do we know which parts of scripture we are to undersand literally and which requires a non-literal interpretation?
The Biblical answer to this question is that we understand the Bible based on how the original writers intended for it to be understood. For Hebrew scholars there are easily distinguished styles of writting such as historical narrative, poetic, and apocalyptic. Historical narrative (Genesis 1 for example) requires a straight forward, literal reading. Poetic writing (Job 38 for example) requires an understanding that it should not be read literally. For example, Job 38 is not intended to describe creation, it is God describing who He is. In addition, as with other types of literature the Biblical writers use many types of literary forms such as simile, metaphor, hyperbole, idiom and personification. We need to be able recognize these, just as we recognize them in contemporary writing.
Humanists love to attempt to "trap" Christians in supposed contradictions by misusing the term "literal reading." We need to understand what "literal reading" means. It can mean, as it does for Genesis 1, a straightforward reading taking scripture to mean exactly what it says. But "literal reading" also means to take scripture the way it was intended to be read. We are to understand hyperbole to be hyperbole, metaphos to be metaphors, and poetry to be poetry.
QUESTION #2 - Is there anything you would accept as proof God created everything in six days?
My experience has been that many theistic evolutionists answer this question the same way humanists do. They will avoid the question by saying, "All of the evidence proves evolution to be true." But when you ask them for something specific, if you get an answer, it will most likely be based on equivication (see above). Another path theistic evolutionists follow is to directly jump into the claim that the word "day" does not mean a 24 hour day, and they try to show that Genesis 1 is talking about long ages. But, that does not work. For example, the order in which evolution supposedly brought things into existance is totally different from what is described in Genesis. You've got to pick one or the other, and supporting evolution as being true is going against what God says He did.
QUESTION #3 - If humans evolved from a common ancestor with apes, why are apes in zoos and humans are not?
For a theistic evolutionist there is no answer to this question that does not destroy scripture.
The answer is that humans are created in the image of God, and apes are not.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. - Genesis 1:26-27
If we evolved from apes, did we then evolve the image of God? No. Did God at some point as we evolved, infuse His image into us? Nope. The Bible doesn't say that. It says God created man in His image. Was there a point in evolution at which a baby ape was born and that baby was the first to have the image of God, making it human. But wait, there'd have to be two, otherwise humanity could not procreate. A plain readsing of Genesis tells us that God created everything in six days, creating humans on the sixth day in His image.
Links to Pages on Other Web Sites:
Ten Dangers of Theistic Evolution (CIM)
Biblical Problems for Theistic Evolution and Progressive Creation (AIG)
Theistic Evolution: What’s Wrong With the Idea That God Used Evolution to Create Everything? (GA)
Can Theistic Evolutionism Explain the Origin of Morality? (AIG)
YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE
What you believe does not determine reality nor truth. That would make you god. But you ARE NOT god. You don't control the universe. You cannot change reality. Let's try an experiment. At about midnight stand in the middle of the road just around a corner where it is hard to be seen... at night, wearing all black. When headlights start lighting up the curve, just believe that whatever is coming does not exist. Stand firm, if you don't believe a vehicle is coming, then nothing is coming. You are perfectly safe... until reality hits.
You are now standing before Jesus. You are dead. It's judgment day. You don't want to believe it's Jesus and you will be judged. But it is. That's reality.
Judgment only takes a moment, the verdict is obvious, and you know it is correct. You are guilty. You've lied, stolen and sexually lusted after others (Matthew 5:28)... you have disobeyed God. Trusting Jesus is the only answer, but it's too late. You had your last chance just before you died.
You know it's no use to protest, but still you scream out, 'I didn't know!'
But you did know. All of creation declared God's glory, His invisible attributes, and His power. You have no excuse. You willingly rejected Jesus Christ (God).
Is this you? Are you saying, 'Hell isn't so bad, I'll be with my friends.' You know that's not true. There are no friends in hell. No beer... not even water to cool your lips. There is NOTHING good in hell.
So I beg you, consider these words. Trust Jesus as having paid your penalty for every way you've have rejected God. Trust Jeus to save you from hell and bring you into the presense of God.
Trust Jesus. Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved. - Acts 16:31